는다니 grammar - neundani grammar

는다니 grammar - neundani grammar

Chào các bạn, nội dung bài viết này Blog sẽ chia sẻ một chút về cách sử dụng của cấu trúc ngữ pháp -ㄴ다니, -는다니, -라니. Ngữ pháp này các bạn sẽ bắt gặp khá là nhiều trong tiếng Hàn dù là văn nói, đọc hay viết nên là Blog nghĩ rằng bài viết ngắn sau đây sẽ một phần nào giúp các bạn ghi nhớ ôn tập lại được cấu trúc ngữ pháp 다니 này.

는다니 grammar - neundani grammar

는/ㄴ다니 (라니) – Thể hiện bất ngờ, ngạc nhiên

Trong bài viết này Blog sẽ chỉ nói đến 는/ㄴ다니 (라니) được dùng ở giữa câu. Còn 는/ㄴ다니 (라니) được dùng làm đuôi câu Blog sẽ tách ra bài Ngữ pháp ㄴ/는다니요.

Dạng thứ nhất cấu trúc 는/ㄴ다니 (라니)  thể hiện người nói ngạc nhiên hoặc cảm thán đối với sự giải thích hoặc sự việc vừa nghe hoặc đang thấy. 들은 설명이나 서술에 대해 말하는 사람이 놀라거나 감탄함을 나타내는 표현.

Ví dụ:

1. 네가 먼저 운동을 하겠다니 놀랄 일인데.

Bạn bảo bạn sẽ khởi động trước á thật là ngạc nhiên đấy.(-다니)

2. 같이 영화 보려고 기다렸는데 너는 먼저 잔다니 내가 화가 안 나겠어?

Đã bảo cùng nhau xem phim nên đã đợi rồi, mà anh bảo ngủ đi ngủ trước nghĩ em không tức à?(-ㄴ다니)

3. 급한 일이 생길 때마다 아프다니 어떻게 그 사람과 같이 일을 하겠어요?

Cứ khi nào có việc gấp lại kêu đau ốm cứ thế này liệu có thể làm việc với người đó không?(-다니)

4. 갑자기 집으로 손님을 모시고 온다니 어떻게 준비해야 할지 모르겠어요.

Đột nhiên bảo rằng có khách khứa đến chơi không biết làm sao để chuẩn bị bây giờ.(-ㄴ다니)

5. 평이 이제 그 사람을 잊는다니 마음이 많이 상한 모양이다.

Phương bảo là từ nay sẽ quên người đó chắc trong lòng bị tổn thương lắm.(-는다니)

6. 마이가 그 사람 말을 믿는다니 천지가 개벽할 일이지요.

Mai nói là tin vào lời người đó nói đúng là việc khai thiên lập địa nhỉ (việc hoang tưởng) (-는다니)

⇒ Cách chia:

  • Thì tương lai (việc mang ý nghĩa về sau) A.V có patchim thì dùng 는다니.
  • Thì tương lai (việc mang ý nghĩa về sau) A.V Không có patchim thì dùng ㄴ다니.
  • Thì tương lai thì cứ + thêm 겠+다니.
  • Thì quá khứ thì cứ + 았/었/했 +다니.

Dạng thứ hai cấu trúc 는/ㄴ다니 (라니) – Việc nghe từ người nào đó, thấy việc gì đó là căn cứ tiền đề (cơ sở) kết nối cho sự phán đoán phía sau. 다른 사람에게 들은 설명이나 서술이 판단의 근거임을 나타내는 표현.

Ví dụ:

1. 다이가 전화하겠다니 기다려 봐.

Đại bảo sẽ gọi điện đấy nên đợi đi coi sao.

2. 딸아이가 장학금을 받는다니 한결 마음이 놓였다.

Thấy con gái bảo nhận được học bổng tôi thấy nhẹ lòng ( ~ nhà đang nghèo khỉ)

3. 창이 늦지 않게 온다니 걱정하지 마세요.

Trang bảo sẽ không đến muộn đâu đừng lo lắng.

❖ Bài chia sẻ ngắn về cấu trúc ngữ pháp 다니 tạm dừng tại đây. Hi vọng bài viết này cung cấp cho bạn một số thông tin có ích. Nếu bạn đọc thấy bài viết hay có ích thì hãy ấn Voite cho Blog nhé.

는다니 grammar - neundani grammar

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Anonymous asked:

hi~ if you dont mind i have two questions. i came across the sentence "나를 가장 좋아해준다니 고마워요!" 1. what exactly does 좋아해준다 mean? i tried looking it up on naver translate but nothing conclusive came out.. 2. what purpose does -니 serve here? google translated the sentence "as thank you for loving me the most", so does -니 in this context mean "for"? thank u in advance<3

는다니 grammar - neundani grammar

Hi~ you asked an interesting question. Actually, 좋아해준다 plus 니 is not the grammar point here! So, I think that is what confused you. I’ll answer this question in two parts though. 

1. 나를 좋아해주다 means “to like me.”

주다 is added to verbs when you’re doing them for someone else like a favor.

선생님이 저를 도와주셨어요. The teacher helped me. 

Or, it is used when expressing that someone else did something for you.

나한테 얘기해줘서 고마워. Thank you for telling me. 

In the second sentence, 주다 is more focused on the fact that you received something because you’re thanking that person for it. 나를 좋아해줘서 고마워요. Thank you for liking me. It’s like saying you’re thankful to that person for being able to receive their affection. You’re thankful that they like you.

It can also be used to turn someone down. Think of it like turning down someone in the school yard who suddenly confessed.

나를 좋아해줘서 고맙지만 너를 좋아하지 않아. I’m really grateful for your feelings, but I don’t like you.

2. ㄴ/는다니 is actually used when reacting to something that someone said. If you’ve learned how to quote speech in Korean (ㄴ/는다고 하다/(이)라고 하다), this might be easier to understand. Especially since it’s conjugated the same way. ㄴ/는다니 is the shortened form of “ㄴ/는다고 하니.” It’s used to respond to someone’s words emotionally. For example:

나 없이 여행간다니 너무 슬퍼요. I’m sad that (you said) you’re going on vacation without me. (I’m sad now that I’ve heard you’re going on vacation without me.)

편의점에 우유가 없다니 말도 안 돼요. There’s “no milk” in the convenience store? That’s not possible.

내일 나를 도와준다니 정말 고마워. 근데 괜찮아. 내가 혼자 할 수 있어. Thank you “for saying” you’ll help me tomorrow, but I’m okay. I can do it alone.

So, 나를 가장 좋아해준다니 고마워요 is more like saying “Thank you for saying you’ll like me the most.” It’s an emotional reaction to the person’s words. It’s like saying “I’m so thankful after hearing you say that you’ll like me the most.”

You’ll actually also see 해준다니 and 해주다니, but there is a small difference that I’ll save for a later post! I don’t want to confuse you or anyone else over such a tiny difference.

Anyway, I hope this is useful! Let me know if you have any more questions!

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iregretcominghere asked:

Hi milkcocoahkorean, I was watching a Korean video the other day, and -는 거지 popped up and I was wondering if it means anything or it's just 는 것 with the -지 particle 🤔,please help TㅅT

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Hi there! I apologize again for the late response. That’s a good question. But, it’s hard to know without context. Some grammar change based on context.

My best guess is that it’s the grammar 는 거예요/는 거야 plus the particle 지 (assumption, agreement etc).

You might know this grammar. But, in case some people don’t. I’ll explain it again. I do have a post somewhere. I’ll put the usage here. (The conjugation can be found easily on google!^^)

ㄴ/는 거야 or the polite ㄴ/는 거예요 is a sentence ending that can be used in the present or past with both verbs and adjectives. It’s basically a more emotional way to talk instead of giving just basic information or straight facts. 

And, it’s used mostly in these situations:

–>giving new (or surprising) information

–>responding to something (with emotion)

–>telling a story to someone (this is because you’re typically telling new or surprising information haha)

–>recounting or clarifying information

Here are some examples:

그거 들었어? 소영이가 그 오빠랑 사귀는 거야! Did you hear that? Soyoung is dating that older guy!

This sounds more surprised like “I’m telling you something!” Instead of “그 오빠랑 사귀고 있어” which just conveys the information a little more dryly. So, if you don’t care, you might use 사귀고 있어. But if this is big news, 사귀는 거야 is more likely to be used. 

어제 남자친구가 갑자기 헤어지자고 한 거야. Yesterday, my boyfriend suddenly said we should break up! (let’s break up). 

이쪽으로 갈까? (Goes off in another direction.) 엥? 어디 가는 거야! 이리 와! Should we go in this direction? *goes off in another direction.* Eh? Where are you going??

*Like “Where on earth are you going” or “where exactly are you going?” or “where the hell are you going?”

So, my guess is you saw “는 거야” plus 지. They are often used together. 지 commonly conveys assumption, agreement or “checking” information with someone.

So, for example:

헤어지자고 하는 거지? You’re saying we should break up, right?

나랑 같이 가는 거지? You’re going with me, right?

This grammar is “nuance” on “nuance.” So, it takes a while to master using it. But, you can understand it this way! And once you understand it, it’ll be easy to recognize it in videos and conversation in the future!

But once again, I can’t promise this is correct. Because I’m not too sure about the context. But, regardless, this is crazy common. 

I hope this helped in some way. Feel free to ask more questions for clarification!

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This is a post I made when I first started this blog, but I thought I’d bring it back since it’s a really great word. 부지런하다 is a word that you hear quite often in Korea. It normally translates to diligent or hard working. 

It’s used all the time as a response to hearing that you’re doing something that’s good for your mind or body.

So, if you wake up early to exercise or study instead of watching Netflix, you’re probably going to hear the phrase: 부지런하네요~

Here are two examples.
오늘 아침에 일찍 일어나서 운동했어요. I woke up early and exercised this morning.
우와 정말 부지런하네요. Wow, you really work hard./You’re really diligent.

우리 오빠는 숙제를 미리 하는 편이에요. 저보다 부지런하죠?ㅋㅋ My older brother always does his homework in advance. He works a lot harder than I do, huh? Haha

It’s basically used to praise someone for something that most people are too lazy to do or don’t like doing. It’s a great word. After learning this phrase, I realized why my Korean friends used the word “diligent” so often. 

Anyway, as always! Follow me for more Korean language posts.

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Today I have another 속담(proverb/old saying). 산 넘어 산이다. 

This one is one of my favorites. Life is full of challenges one after another. And this proverb illustrates just that feeling.

So, let’s first break 산 넘어 산이다 down. 산 means mountain(s), 넘다 means to climb over, pass, cross, and 산이다 is 산(mountain) plus the copula 이다 (similar to “to be”). 

산 넘어 산이다. Literally means something like “there is (another) mountain after going over a mountain.”/ “Go over the mountain and there is another mountain.”

It’s used to express discontent that there is “one problem/challenge after another.” Once you finish one challenge, another one appears.

So, like the pictures, American college students are in a debt crisis. So, it’s probably pretty relatable for some of you. I just struggled to get through college! So, now I should be okay. But, the moment I finish my first challenge (getting through college), I’m immediately faced with another challenge (paying off college debt). 

With life always putting new problems, barriers and challenges in front of us, this is a great expression. Here are some examples.

산 넘어 산이라고 대학교를 졸업하자마자 학비를 갚아야 돼요. “It’s just one challenge after another.” As soon as I graduate, I have to repay my school costs.

인생은 쉽지는 않지. 산 넘어 산이라고 하잖아. Live isn’t easy. They say it’s one hardship after another you know.

A: 민경아, 취직했다면서? 축하해! Mingyeong. I heard you got a job? Congratulations!

B: ㅋㅋ 고마워..취직을 하긴 했는데 다음 주 영어 시험을 봐야 된대. 산 넘어 산이야. haha Thank you…I did get a job, but they said I have to take an English exam next week. It’s just one thing after another.

Let me know if you have any questions. Good luck studying everyone! I hope you don’t have too many mountains to cross while studying Korean!

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Hey guys, today I have two interesting verbs for you. 

새우다 and 피우다. The reason they are interesting is that you often don’t see them in their “correct” form while talking. Some of you might have even noticed this or wondered why you don’t see 새우다 and 피우다 often or if there is a difference. 

In textbooks you’ll learn sentences like:

어제 밤을 새워서 공부했어요. I stayed up all night studying yesterday.

But, you don’t hear that sentence too often in real life conversations with friends. Instead, you hear this:

어제 밤을 새서 공부했어요. I stayed up all night studying.

Or

밤을 샜어요. I stayed up all night./I pulled an all-nighter.

In class, newspapers, and in the dictionary, you will (or should) find the verb as 새우다. But, most people (at least in Seoul) use the verb as 새다. 우 completely disappears. 피우다 is the same. In the dictionary and in your books, you’ll see 담배(를) 피우다 and 바람(을) 피우다. But, many people say 담배(를) 피다 and 바람(을) 피다.

밤을 새다 is technically incorrect. But, you’ll hear it more often than the correct version. It’s kind of like “who and whom” in the US. Most people don’t use “whom” at all. They use “who” incorrectly even if they know it’s wrong. That’s because for some weird reason using “who” wrong sounds more natural than using “whom” correctly.

Here are a few examples of the three most common words I’ve come across.

담배를 안 폈으면 좋겠어요. (*안 피웠으면) I wish you didn’t smoke cigarettes. 

밤을 새지 마. 숙제는 내일 해. (*새우지 마) Don’t stay up all night. Do your homework tomorrow.

남자 친구가 바람을 피면 끝이야! (*바람을 피우면) If (my) boyfriend cheats, it’s over/it’s the end. 

It’s strange that language sometimes sounds better when it’s wrong, right? Just one more reason to not stress about speaking “perfect Korean.” You should use the correct form when writing papers and on tests, but when you’re talking or texting, feel free to use it “incorrectly.” 

Anyway, good luck studying guys!

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Hi guys, today I have a little 말장난 (pun, word play) for you.

In the picture, the guy in green says “석준아, 내 말 좀 들어 줘!” and then gives 석준 a horse. This is a common 짤 (meme) that you can find in google images for Korean puns.

말 means both “words” or “horse.” And the phrase 들어 주다 can mean “to listen to someone” or “to hold something for someone.” (듣다 to listen/들다 to hold something)

So, “내 말 좀 들어 줘” could be translated two different ways. “Please listen to what I have to say” or “please hold my horse.”

But, you know…you will probably never say “please hold my horse.” (unless it’s a toy horse?) 

Either way, I recommend looking up the 짤. You can save it and send it to a Korean friend when you want to tell them something. 

Anyway, good luck studying everyone~!

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taesmidnight asked:

Hi Milkcocoah! I just watched a variety show where a person said 연습 많이 했어요. I was just wondering why they didn't instead say 많이 연습했어요. I know they both mean the same thing, but could there a reason why they chose one wording over the other? Or is it truly just random/what comes up in that specific moment? Love your blog! :) 오늘도 화이팅!

는다니 grammar - neundani grammar

Hi there! I’m glad to hear from you. This is a good question. The placement of adverbs (부사) can be difficult. You could say that 연습 많이 했다 is a little more grammatically correct. But, that is because this is a 하다 verb. 하다 is used to make nouns into verbs, right? (noun: 연습 practice, verb: 연습하다 to practice). 

So, all 하다 verbs can be written with the particles 을/를. For example, 연습하다 and 연습을 하다 are exactly the same meaning-wise. 연습하다 is like the shortened form. 

Generally, adverbs and the “negative 안/못” are right next to the verb. 안 음식을 먹었어요. would be really awkward, right? 음식을 안 먹었어요. would be more natural. The negative 안/못 and adverbs like to be close to the verb. You can think of it as adverbs love verbs and don’t want to be separated. 

하다 verbs are unique because they are a noun + a verb. Because of this, adverbs typically are put between the noun and 하다.

For example:

공부를 많이 했다. I studied a lot.

연습(을) 자주 해야 돼요. I have to practice often.

But, this is not a hard rule when speaking. You’ll see some people say 많이 연습했어요. and it is not super awkward. But, in general adverbs are right next to the verb. You’ll even see 연습했어요 많이! It’s an interesting trait that Korean has. However, the father away the adverb is from the verb the more awkward it will become.

In the case of 안 and 못, it’s more important to put them right next to the verb. It can get awkward if you don’t. (But sometimes people say 공부했다– especially kids.)

However, it’s better to say it like this:

포기(를) 해요. / 포기(를) 했어요. I can’t give up./ I didn’t give up.

Let me know if any of this was confusing! I hope it helps. And good luck! 홧팅하세요! ㅎㅎ

Anonymous asked:

hello, how are you doing? hope everything is fine! A while ago you answered a question about how you became fluent in Korean in 4 years, and you said that noticing the differences between English and Korean was a great factor. could you make a post about those differences? like: in X situation, an English speaker would say Y while an Korean speaker would say Z. please consider, thank you so much!

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Hi there, I am doing pretty good now!^^ And yes, that’s actually something I tackle in a lot of posts, like the post on 기대되다 and 흥분되다. These differences normally appear in subtle differences in usage for vocabulary that don’t match their translation.

One that I might have mentioned is the difference between “뭐 what” and “왜 why.” This is a surprisingly big difference. In the US, if I am looking at someone too long they might ask “What?” (Like what are you looking at lol), but in Korea if you say “뭐야? / 뭐예요?” it would be pretty aggressive or rude. It just isn’t used in that situation. Koreans will ask “why? 왜?/왜요?” (why are you looking at me?) It’s also the reason Koreans will awkwardly ask “why” in situations where (at least)  Americans wouldn’t use it.

But, it’s hard to dedicate one post because this is a pretty endless list. It’s just one of the challenges of Korean. But, I promise I’ll keep coming back to it. This is an area of Korean that I’m really interested in linguistically. So, I’ll definitely keep posts coming with this in mind. 

Anonymous asked:

hello! i love your blog and it has really motivated me to keep learning korean 😁 i have a question about improving listening skills. would constantly listening to music, youtube, kdramas etc. or should i take a different approach?

는다니 grammar - neundani grammar

Hi there! I apologize for this answer being much too late. The best approach to listening is definitely listening to things you like! I think your approach is great. There are all kinds of theories about what work. Like listening once with subtitles then without or vise versa. But, taking the approach that is most enjoyable is always my main advice. If you hate to do it, you won’t do it. That’s just what happens. There are amazing study tips, but if you hate the method, it’s easy to give up. It happened to me a bunch. 

I do find that if you want to take a very “school” approach, watching three times (one without subtitles, one with Korean subtitles or a script, then once without subtitles again) really does help. I had to do it in school, and while it was annoying, I did hear a lot of the script by the third time.  

I find Korean subtitles to be helpful in the beginning. You can match the word to the sound, and you know what to be listening for.

Listening is hard because if you don’t know the word, you can hear it 100 times and never understand. So, actually the best thing for listening is building your vocabulary (and of course grammar). But, listening and looking for words or phrases is always good practice whether you understand or not. It’s hard to not improve if you couple exposure to Korean with studying (especially vocab). Whenever I learn a new word, I almost immediately hear it in conversation or read it somewhere. So, vocabulary expansion is really important. 

I hope this helps at least a little! And I’m super glad to have helped motivate you to keep going. Korean is tough, but it’s really rewarding at the end!

Hi guys~ today’s post is a Korean 속담 (proverb, old saying). 

백지장도 맞들면 낫다. 

First, let’s break it down.

백지장 white paper / 도 also, too / 맞들다 to lift up something together / (으)면 “if/when” grammar / 낫다 to be better

You could literally translate it as “It’s better if you lift up even a sheet of paper together.”/ “If you lift up a white sheet of paper together, it’s better.”

It’s similar to “many hands make light work” or “two heads are better than one.” 

A piece of paper is incredibly light, but even something that light is easier to lift if two people do it together. So, this is an expression about working together to make a task easier. Here are some examples of how to use it. 

(If someone is telling you you don’t have to help) 아냐 아냐 나도 도와줄게. 백지장도 맞들면 낫잖아! No, no. I’ll help you (too). Many hands make light work, you know. 

백지장도 맞들면 낫다고 제가 도와드릴게요. They say many hands make light work; I’ll help you. 

왜 혼자서 하려고 그래? 백지장도 맞들면 낫다는 말도 있잖아. 같이 하자. Why are you trying to do it yourself? They say many hands make light work. (Lit: You know there is an expression/words “many hands make light work.”) Let’s do it together.

Good luck studying guys!

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(으)면 좋겠다 Grammar

는다니 grammar - neundani grammar
는다니 grammar - neundani grammar

(으)면 좋겠다 is a power grammar point. It’s at the (lower) intermediate level, but it’s used all the time. It’s a core grammar point in my opinion, and you definitely need to master it.

(으)면 좋겠다 is attached to both verbs and adjectives to express one’s wishes or hopes. Many beginner students try to say “I wish/hope” by translating the word to 소원을 빌다/희망하다/바라다 or the grammar point -기를 바라다. And while they aren’t exactly wrong, it’s really easy to use them awkwardly or incorrectly in everyday situations. 

And that’s why, I’d like to introduce (으)면 좋겠다. It uses (으)면 “if” and 좋겠다 “would be nice” to mean “I wish” or “I hope,” even though “wish” and “hope” aren’t always interchangeable in English. This grammar point can be used to express both. It literally expresses “I would be nice if…” One of the interesting parts of this grammar point is that context is super important when translating it. It can be used in a lot of situations unlike the English words “wish” or “hope” which have more distinguished differences. 

And if you already learned (으)면 “if/when,” then you already know how to conjugate it! Words ending with a consonant use -으면 좋겠다, and words ending with no consonant use -면 좋겠다.

Verbs/Adjectives

하다 —> 하면 좋겠다 vs. 먹다 —> 먹으면 좋겠다

크다 —> 크면 좋겠다 vs. 없다 —> 없으면 좋겠다

Here are some examples.

내일 시험을 잘 보면 좋겠어요. I hope I do well on the test tomorrow. (시험을 잘 보다 - to take a test well, do well on a test)

전 여자 친구가 앞으로 나랑 연락을 안 하면 좋겠어. I hope my ex-girlfriend doesn’t contact me anymore. 

둘이 항상 싸우더라고…헤어지면 좋겠어 Those two always fight…I wish they’d break up.

오늘 비가 오면 좋겠어요. I hope it rains today./It’d be nice if it rains today.

It’s also common to see this grammar used in the past tense, 았/었/였으면 좋겠다. I would actually argue that it’s more common to see it in the past tense (in my experience that is). Luckily, its core meaning doesn’t change. Textbooks are a bit hazy on the difference between the two. But some books say it’s just a little bit stronger. Think of it as a little more emphasis on your wish. (Just remember that this form is used a bit more. And the difference is really arbitrary in regards to its usage.)

너는…그런 말을 안 했으면 좋겠어. 너는 예쁘잖아. I wish you wouldn’t say that (words like that). You’re pretty…

A 아이돌이 나랑 사랑에 빠졌으면 좋겠다~ I wish idol A would fall in love with me.

내 생일 파티에 왔으면 좋겠어요. I hope you come to my birthday party./I wish you would come to my birthday party./It’d be great if you came to my birthday party.

좋은 대학교에 합격했으면 좋겠어. I hope I get accepted into a good school.

걔가 좀 조용했으면 좋겠어. I wish he would be quiet. (*note: this is not a nice thing to say~^^)

It can also be used with the copula 이다 and 아니다.

올해 우리 선생님이 남자였으면(남자면) 좋겠어. I hope our teacher is a man this year.

올해 우리 선생님이 남자가 아니었으면(아니면) 좋겠어. I hope our teacher isn’t a man this year.

You can also use (으)면 하다 instead of (으)면 좋겠다. (으)면 하다 tends to be used more often in formal speech. But the meaning remains the same. 

*Note: (으)면 하다 can be used in casual speech, but (으)면 좋겠다 isn’t really used in formal speech. 

여러분, 이 발표를 재미있게 보셨으면 합니다. Everyone, I hope you all enjoy this powerpoint.

주연 씨는 좀 더 일찍 수업에 오셨으면 해요. Miss Juyeon, I wish you would come to class a little bit earlier.

(이웃에게) 죄송한데요. 저희 아들이 강아지 털 알레르기가 있거든요. 그래서 강아지랑 놀지 않았으면 해요. (To a neighbor) I’m sorry. You see, our son has a dog fur allergy. So, I hope he doesn’t play with the dog. (And in context, that would equal~ I hope you don’t let him play with the dog.)

Let me know if you have any questions.

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